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posted by Benton12
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on February 28, 2024 at 10:40 AM

Not because of gore. Plenty of that on film before this too.

The reason this film hurts entertainment is that it was a sequel to an earlier film that was earlier by 23 years. It is cannon. This is what happened to Norman Bates after he was committed.

Here is the problem. TV episodes and film series are held together only very, very loosely in fact. It was really traumatic to take a movie nothing had been done with for way over twenty years and suddenly sequel it. It was in the last days this was possible. If this movie had been the first sequel thirty years or more after the original it really would not have counted. Too many years would have gone by.

Future entertainment tried to make sequels to TV shows and movie shows that had been gone for decades. Like the 1998 sequel to the 1968 movie 'The Odd Couple' . It was just wrong. And did not count as canon!

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Reply by tmdb91967014

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on March 3, 2024 at 3:45 AM

@bratface said:

@Rocky_Sullivan said:

@bratface said:

@Benton12 said:

You feel it was almost too long to be made a sequel of?

Fine if you like the shock value. But it was not what the movie so bad. Though thinking back on it it looked the actress was at risk and of getting hurt in the scene. That's another point.

As for spelling of cannon/canon. It's too slim a point. And too interchangeable.

THAT WOULD BE A HUGE NOPE!

One has to make a huge leap just to put together much of Benton's language here sometimes. Still, I agree.

With whom?

Oh, excuse me -- apparently I'm not taking the forum seriously enough for you -- I agree with Benton.

Reply by Benton12

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on March 3, 2024 at 5:15 AM

@Rocky_Sullivan said:

@bratface said:

@Rocky_Sullivan said:

@bratface said:

@Benton12 said:

You feel it was almost too long to be made a sequel of?

Fine if you like the shock value. But it was not what the movie so bad. Though thinking back on it it looked the actress was at risk and of getting hurt in the scene. That's another point.

As for spelling of cannon/canon. It's too slim a point. And too interchangeable.

THAT WOULD BE A HUGE NOPE!

One has to make a huge leap just to put together much of Benton's language here sometimes. Still, I agree.

With whom?

Oh, excuse me -- apparently I'm not taking the forum seriously enough for you -- I agree with Benton.

BTW thanks Rocky. And the original point of thread stands.

Reply by bratface

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on March 3, 2024 at 2:40 PM

@Rocky_Sullivan said:

@bratface said:

@Rocky_Sullivan said:

@bratface said:

@Benton12 said:

You feel it was almost too long to be made a sequel of?

Fine if you like the shock value. But it was not what the movie so bad. Though thinking back on it it looked the actress was at risk and of getting hurt in the scene. That's another point.

As for spelling of cannon/canon. It's too slim a point. And too interchangeable.

THAT WOULD BE A HUGE NOPE!

One has to make a huge leap just to put together much of Benton's language here sometimes. Still, I agree.

With whom?

Oh, excuse me -- apparently I'm not taking the forum seriously enough for you -- I agree with Benton.

🙄😏

Reply by Benton12

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on March 4, 2024 at 12:22 AM

This thread is getting too long and becoming dull. Can we just end it?

Reply by tmdb91967014

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on March 4, 2024 at 7:18 PM

@Benton12 said:

This thread is getting too long and becoming dull. Can we just end it?

I concur.

Reply by bratface

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on March 4, 2024 at 8:00 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6kenZFZzFU

Reply by tmdb91967014

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on March 5, 2024 at 6:33 AM

@Benton12 said:

The TV Odd Couple was in a different fictional universe than film.

Aren't there different universes in TV, period? Like Ice-T and Mariska Hargitay's world in "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" being in one different from Rick and Michonne's in "The Ones Who Live?" One point I'd like to make is how, interestingly, TV and movies feel more and more like each other all the time now, in terms of overall subject matter. The same violent activity, people love making, car crashes, etc. reflect off of one another in the two.

Reply by Benton12

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on March 5, 2024 at 7:28 AM

@Rocky_Sullivan said:

@Benton12 said:

The TV Odd Couple was in a different fictional universe than film.

Aren't there different universes in TV, period? Like Ice-T and Mariska Hargitay's world in "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" being in one different from Rick and Michonne's in "The Ones Who Live?" One point I'd like to make is how, interestingly, TV and movies feel more and more like each other all the time now, in terms of overall subject matter. The same violent activity, people love making, car crashes, etc. reflect off of one another in the two.

I thought we were going to like end this thread?

Reply by Benton12

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on March 5, 2024 at 7:31 AM

@Benton12 said:

@Rocky_Sullivan said:

@Benton12 said:

The TV Odd Couple was in a different fictional universe than film.

Aren't there different universes in TV, period? Like Ice-T and Mariska Hargitay's world in "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" being in one different from Rick and Michonne's in "The Ones Who Live?" One point I'd like to make is how, interestingly, TV and movies feel more and more like each other all the time now, in terms of overall subject matter. The same violent activity, people love making, car crashes, etc. reflect off of one another in the two.

All right I will quickly explain. Some may have thought The Odd Couple the movie was in the same fictional universe wise as the TV series that followed two years later. It was not! There was no continuation of the original TOC film for 30 years.

I do not at all know the two TV show examples you gave. No comment! I hope this will end now.

Reply by bratface

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on March 5, 2024 at 3:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5AicnM00Hg

Reply by bratface

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on March 5, 2024 at 7:05 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIkUuF4OUAQ

Reply by tmdb91967014

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on March 6, 2024 at 3:25 PM

@Benton12 said:

@Benton12 said:

@Rocky_Sullivan said:

@Benton12 said:

The TV Odd Couple was in a different fictional universe than film.

Aren't there different universes in TV, period? Like Ice-T and Mariska Hargitay's world in "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" being in one different from Rick and Michonne's in "The Ones Who Live?" One point I'd like to make is how, interestingly, TV and movies feel more and more like each other all the time now, in terms of overall subject matter. The same violent activity, people love making, car crashes, etc. reflect off of one another in the two.

All right I will quickly explain. Some may have thought The Odd Couple the movie was in the same fictional universe wise as the TV series that followed two years later. It was not! There was no continuation of the original TOC film for 30 years.

I do not at all know the two TV show examples you gave. No comment! I hope this will end now.

I thought the thread was open to anyone who wishes to participate, but I guess I am done with it, anyway.

Reply by bratface

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on March 6, 2024 at 7:02 PM

The Story of Psycho II (1983) - Review & Retrospective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5VAJKROkFo

Reply by bratface

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on March 6, 2024 at 7:05 PM

@Rocky_Sullivan said:

@Benton12 said:

@Benton12 said:

@Rocky_Sullivan said:

@Benton12 said:

The TV Odd Couple was in a different fictional universe than film.

Aren't there different universes in TV, period? Like Ice-T and Mariska Hargitay's world in "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" being in one different from Rick and Michonne's in "The Ones Who Live?" One point I'd like to make is how, interestingly, TV and movies feel more and more like each other all the time now, in terms of overall subject matter. The same violent activity, people love making, car crashes, etc. reflect off of one another in the two.

All right I will quickly explain. Some may have thought The Odd Couple the movie was in the same fictional universe wise as the TV series that followed two years later. It was not! There was no continuation of the original TOC film for 30 years.

I do not at all know the two TV show examples you gave. No comment! I hope this will end now.

I thought the thread was open to anyone who wishes to participate, but I guess I am done with it, anyway.

Until you disagree with him or don't answer how he wants you to.

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