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I really liked the first 2/3 of the movie. I wasn´t expecting the whole moral dilemma of Jim´s and Auroras relationship. That was great!

But then came the perfect Hollywood Ending. He saves everybody and she chooses by free will to stay with him - pretty lame.

What I would have preferred:

1) (small change) As mentioned in the movie, putting somebody to hibernation requires a complicated medical procedure. So the pod seemed like a deus-ex-machina.

They should have left that option out and give the end a dark shadow.

Jim and her saved everybody - but she had no option to go back to sleep. She HAS to stay.

It would be a morally more ambiguous ending.

2) (big change) (read something similar in a thread)

Jim dies saving everybody. Aurora is all alone. We get a sequence with Aurora mirroring Jim´s phases of being alone. Film ends with her waking somebody up. End.

Still a 7 out of 10 for me.

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And to OP´s post and 2nd ending, aurora was not a mechanic like jim, she would not know how to wake someone up, remember, jim needed tools and the tablet like manual to wake aurora.

@catmydogs said:

I am wondering...the people who object to the premise of this story (lonely man awakens woman against her will), what are their thoughts about a film like Vertigo? Or a recent film like V for Vendetta?

Here is a link to a video which has some ideas to increase the Twilight Zone creepy factor in Passengers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gksxu-yeWcU

Basically, start the movie when Jennifer Lawrence's character wakes up. And then have her slowly discover what Chris Pratt's character had done. This would increase the view that he was more of a jerk. That might work.

Imo at least, BB ;-)

Really great one there BB-15.

But all this tells me, with all these possible endings where some of them are really great, and all discussions and heated views going on about it, it is not really a bad movie at all. It is an interesting concept and idea, but just with a script edit that could have been better.

If you look up Milquetoast in the dictionary it has a link to this movie as one of the definitions. Pretty at times but no flavor. Nothing to really engage the mind or your own feelings. I looked at the cast photos, two leads on the left and Sheen, Fishburne and Garcia on the right and thought, this movie needed the three on the right to be involved a lot more and the two "faces" on the left a lot less. It's a shame to think Fishburne and Garcia have aged into cameos and small supporting roles in big movies. Having Fishburne arrive on screen was a big relief as you sense now we might get some meat on the bone of this movie. But no, he'll just briefly provide avenues for the leads to continue and then be gone. They could have done so much more with Sheen's android character. I'm guessing the intent of the makers was to make a romance based in a sci-fi setting, not a sci-fi movie with romance. I didn't need this to be super dark or have a negative ending. Just a lot more depth to the story. It played out incredibly safe, even when they were supposedly about to die. It made me think of how superior Moon was in the realm of a story about isolation in a sci-fi setting.

FWIW I don't dislike Lawrence or Pratt, but IMO they don't have what it takes to carry a movie like this.

I don't think the ending was the problem with this one. The last 40mins really took the wind out of the sails of a sci-fi lite film that was making a good fist of it. Swapping the ending wouldn't have saved it. I do agree showing Aurora with the same moral dilemma would have been improvement. Possibly even with Jim still alive (e.g. is she going to wake an alternate fella as the ultimate punishment to Jim, or bump him off).

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@Damienracer said:

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@Damienracer said:

@Master_YODA said:

I really liked the first 2/3 of the movie. I wasn´t expecting the whole moral dilemma of Jim´s and Auroras relationship. That was great!

But then came the perfect Hollywood Ending. He saves everybody and she chooses by free will to stay with him - pretty lame.

What I would have preferred:

1) (small change) As mentioned in the movie, putting somebody to hibernation requires a complicated medical procedure. So the pod seemed like a deus-ex-machina.

They should have left that option out and give the end a dark shadow.

Jim and her saved everybody - but she had no option to go back to sleep. She HAS to stay.

It would be a morally more ambiguous ending.

2) (big change) (read something similar in a thread)

Jim dies saving everybody. Aurora is all alone. We get a sequence with Aurora mirroring Jim´s phases of being alone. Film ends with her waking somebody up. End.

Still a 7 out of 10 for me.

Your own ending is unnecessarily more complicated than the movie. I found the movie meh but the ending was actually alright and clean something that I sadly can't say about your alternative whatever the hell that is.

We must infer, D, that you were extraordinarily disappointed when the final scene arrived without JLaw ever turning into Mystique, or Chris Pratt putting on a cape and flying around the space station. Granted, him playing this entire debacle of a movie as Star Lord would have been an improvement

You being conceived was more disappointing to me than any missed superhero opportunity.

"I want to disappoint some dude on TMDB who goes by DamienRacer" was, admittedly, the thought which precipitated me conceiving of myself. Sounds like my mission hath been accomplished

He didn't say you conceived yourself you dumbass.

Just watched this movie tonight. Some good effects, but overall bleh. Doesn't make sense that the accident would only cause one pod to "awaken" prematurely. Doesn't make sense that one crew member would awaken. Or that he would die before waking up another crew member... Don't believe for a second that someone could vent a fusion reactor without being incinerated... On and on... Seems like it was basically just a Chick Flick In Space.

I feel that on last decades bad endings aren't much accepted by most public. It'd be too much dramatic to have him give up his life to save her and the others, which of course would also be too forced. There's always some way around to save characters even if it requires deus ex machina, as there are many dumb ways of getting a character out of the way.

Endings like in this movie seem to be written so they're easily changed later. Jim can die by the heat or sinking on space, or just survive it all by himself. He could seem to die just to appear by himself alive. Aurora could end up being antagonist and let him die to pay for waking her, or forgive him and go save him but fail, or succeed after a very dramatic and long scene.

So you mean, they could screen-test it and then use whatever ending got the best response.

Yes, but not just screen test or record multiple endings. It seems the screenplay itself was written so it'd be easier to change during production.

Maybe a "choose your own adventure" YouTube/Streaming option? :)

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