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The answer is: yes.


So why all those conspiracy theories?


An example of yet another attempt to prove that the moon landing was fake:

In January 2023 a videoclip on instagram was posted where Buzz Aldrin in a 2015 interview appeared to have said, 'we didn't go there'.

This was immediately debunked:


The video itself has a number of what appear to be jarring cuts, leading to comments suggesting that the clip must have been edited to change the meaning of Mr Aldrin’s words.

However, if we compare the Instagram clip to the full video of the interview, filmed in 2015, it is apparent that while the Instagram post may have been edited to cut some pauses in Mr Aldrin’s response, his actual words haven’t been changed.

But this doesn’t mean Mr Aldrin “admitted” the Moon landing was faked. Here’s what Mr Aldrin said in full: “That's not an eight-year-old's question. That's my question. I want to know. But I think I know. Because we didn't go there. And that's the way it happened.

“And if it didn't happen it's nice to know why it didn't happen so in the future, if we want to keep doing something, we need to know why something stopped in the past if we want to keep it going.”

While Mr Aldrin’s words are not that clear, it’s plausible he was responding to the question about why nobody had been to the Moon “in such a long time”, by explaining why astronauts hadn’t returned to the Moon. The last crewed expedition took place in 1972, with a total of 12 astronauts (all from US expeditions) walking on the Moon’s surface.

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@wonder2wonder said:

The answer is: yes.


*So why all those conspiracy theories? *


A couple of excerpts from an article I happened to run across that were good for a chuckle-and-a-twitch:

  1. Some conspiracy theorists reference the lack of stars in the pictures taken by the Apollo astronauts from the surface of the Moon. ANSWER:The simple answer for this is that the stars are there, but just that they are too faint to see.

  2. Some conspiracy theorists reference the famous US flag, which in photos of the moment, appears to be flapping in the wind.
    ANSWER: The truth to this is that although it looks like it is moving, it isn't.

Bottomline...

ANSWER 1 = It's there; but, you can't see it.

ANSWER 2 = You see it; but, it isn't there.

When you hear this kind of 'splaining' how can you help but smirk and thinking interrobang

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@wonder2wonder said:

The answer is: yes.


*So why all those conspiracy theories? *


A couple of excerpts from an article I happened to run across that were good for a chuckle-and-a-twitch:

  1. Some conspiracy theorists reference the lack of stars in the pictures taken by the Apollo astronauts from the surface of the Moon. ANSWER:The simple answer is for this is that the stars are there, but just that they are too faint to see.

  2. Some conspiracy theorists reference the famous US flag, which in photos of the moment, appears to be flapping in the wind.
    ANSWER: The truth to this is that although it looks like it is moving, it isn't.

Bottomline...

ANSWER 1 = It's there; but, you can't see it.

ANSWER 2 = You see it; but, it isn't there.

When you hear this kind of 'splaining' how can you help but smirk and thinking interrobang

The stars aren't too faint to see, they were too faint to show up on the film used at that time, in "daylight" etc.

The flag was set up to stand out and to appear "rippling" with wire etc, otherwise since there is no wind it would just hang down. But it's not actually moving.

Really do we need a post for this on a Star Trek board what's next a post that the Earth is flat ??

There's no such thing as gravity! The Earth sucks!

@Nexus71 said:

Really do we need a post for this on a Star Trek board what's next a post that the Earth is flat ??

I Hear Ya!

But…

Theorists have to theorize. Otherwise they will find something else idiotic to do with all that spare time.

Anyway…

This maybe/maybe not “Moon Landing” has given us two iconic quotes:

'the eagle has landed'

"That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind."

For these two gems alone I can go the hear_no_evil see_no_evil speak_no_evil route whenever this discussion raises its persistent head.


ANOTHER NOTE: The Enterprise’s Five-Year Mission is built on the back of everything that has gone before. That would make “The Moon Landing” just one of the many undertakings that helped paved the way in the race-to-conquer-space.

ON ANOTHER, ANOTHER NOTE: I saw an ad a couple of years back where the Flat Earth Society sponsored “A Cruise” for its members. Go Figure!

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

ON ANOTHER, ANOTHER NOTE: I saw an ad a couple of years back where the Flat Earth Society sponsored “A Cruise” for its members. Go Figure!



While there are different theories within the Flat Earth community, the core belief is that the Earth is flat.

The FEIC (Flat Earth International Conference) was the one organizing the cruise. They claim that after “extensive experimentation, analysis, and research”, its adherents came to believe the Earth is not a sphere.

The Flat Earth Society, which is not connected to the FEIC, has suggested that “the space agencies of the world” have conspired to fake “space travel and exploration”. “This likely began during the cold war,” the Flat Earth Society says. “The USSR and USA were obsessed with beating each other into space to the point that each faked their accomplishments in an attempt to keep pace with the other’s supposed achievements.”

So, one can assume that the Flat Earth Society does not believe in the moon landing.

Indeed, how can there even be a moon orbiting a flat Earth?

@wonder2wonder said:

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

ON ANOTHER, ANOTHER NOTE: I saw an ad a couple of years back where the Flat Earth Society sponsored “A Cruise” for its members. Go Figure!



While there are different theories within the Flat Earth community, the core belief is that the Earth is flat.

The FEIC (Flat Earth International Conference) was the one organizing the cruise. They claim that after “extensive experimentation, analysis, and research”, its adherents came to believe the Earth is not a sphere.

The Flat Earth Society, which is not connected to the FEIC, has suggested that “the space agencies of the world” have conspired to fake “space travel and exploration”. “This likely began during the cold war,” the Flat Earth Society says. “The USSR and USA were obsessed with beating each other into space to the point that each faked their accomplishments in an attempt to keep pace with the other’s supposed achievements.”

So, one can assume that the Flat Earth Society does not believe in the moon landing.

“Despite real, scientific evidence to the contrary, the Flat Earth Society is continuing its quest to convince the world that spherical planets are a hoax and the earth is flat. In 2020, they’ll bring their message to the seas with a special cruise they promise will be “the biggest, boldest, best adventure yet.”( thelonelyplanet.com – March 29, 2019.)

thinking Competing cruises OR sloppy fact-checking. All probably came to naught since the COVID-19 pandemic "blew everything out of the water".

Why does it necessarily follow that just because they believe the Earth is flat, they do not believe the Moon Landing was real?

Because if you'll believe one crackpot theory, you'll believe another?

As the saying goes: If the earth Is flat, cats would have pushed everything off it by now

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@wonder2wonder said:

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

ON ANOTHER, ANOTHER NOTE: I saw an ad a couple of years back where the Flat Earth Society sponsored “A Cruise” for its members. Go Figure!



While there are different theories within the Flat Earth community, the core belief is that the Earth is flat.

The FEIC (Flat Earth International Conference) was the one organizing the cruise. They claim that after “extensive experimentation, analysis, and research”, its adherents came to believe the Earth is not a sphere.

The Flat Earth Society, which is not connected to the FEIC, has suggested that “the space agencies of the world” have conspired to fake “space travel and exploration”. “This likely began during the cold war,” the Flat Earth Society says. “The USSR and USA were obsessed with beating each other into space to the point that each faked their accomplishments in an attempt to keep pace with the other’s supposed achievements.”

So, one can assume that the Flat Earth Society does not believe in the moon landing.

“Despite real, scientific evidence to the contrary, the Flat Earth Society is continuing its quest to convince the world that spherical planets are a hoax and the earth is flat. In 2020, they’ll bring their message to the seas with a special cruise they promise will be “the biggest, boldest, best adventure yet.”( thelonelyplanet.com – March 29, 2019.)

thinking Competing cruises OR sloppy fact-checking. All probably came to naught since the COVID-19 pandemic "blew everything out of the water".



It seems that Flat Earther Robbie Davidson, who organises these cruises, also organises the annual Flat Earth International Conference. (independent.co.uk - Friday 22 March 2019).



Why does it necessarily follow that just because they believe the Earth is flat, they do not believe the Moon Landing was real?


Excerpt from their website Flat Earth Society:


People have been into space. How have they not discovered that the Earth is flat?

The most commonly accepted explanation of this is that the space agencies of the world are involved in a conspiracy faking space travel and exploration. This likely began during the Cold War's 'Space Race', in which the USSR and USA were obsessed with beating each other into space to the point that each faked their accomplishments in an attempt to keep pace with the other's supposed achievements. Since the end of the Cold War, however, the conspiracy is most likely motivated by greed rather than political gains, and using only some of their funding to continue to fake space travel saves a lot of money to embezzle for themselves.

In light of the above, please note that we are not suggesting that space agencies are aware that the Earth is flat and actively covering the fact up. They depict the Earth as being round simply because that is what they expect it to be.


The Flat Earth Society are saying that space agencies are 'faking space travel and exploration'. Not everyone at the FEIC believes that.

@wonder2wonder said:

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@wonder2wonder said:

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

ON ANOTHER, ANOTHER NOTE: I saw an ad a couple of years back where the Flat Earth Society sponsored “A Cruise” for its members. Go Figure!



While there are different theories within the Flat Earth community, the core belief is that the Earth is flat.

The FEIC (Flat Earth International Conference) was the one organizing the cruise. They claim that after “extensive experimentation, analysis, and research”, its adherents came to believe the Earth is not a sphere.

The Flat Earth Society, which is not connected to the FEIC, has suggested that “the space agencies of the world” have conspired to fake “space travel and exploration”. “This likely began during the cold war,” the Flat Earth Society says. “The USSR and USA were obsessed with beating each other into space to the point that each faked their accomplishments in an attempt to keep pace with the other’s supposed achievements.”

So, one can assume that the Flat Earth Society does not believe in the moon landing.

“Despite real, scientific evidence to the contrary, the Flat Earth Society is continuing its quest to convince the world that spherical planets are a hoax and the earth is flat. In 2020, they’ll bring their message to the seas with a special cruise they promise will be “the biggest, boldest, best adventure yet.”( thelonelyplanet.com – March 29, 2019.)

thinking Competing cruises OR sloppy fact-checking. All probably came to naught since the COVID-19 pandemic "blew everything out of the water".



It seems that Flat Earther Robbie Davidson, who organises these cruises, also organises the annual Flat Earth International Conference. (independent.co.uk - Friday 22 March 2019).



Why does it necessarily follow that just because they believe the Earth is flat, they do not believe the Moon Landing was real?


Excerpt from their website Flat Earth Society:


People have been into space. How have they not discovered that the Earth is flat?

The most commonly accepted explanation of this is that the space agencies of the world are involved in a conspiracy faking space travel and exploration. This likely began during the Cold War's 'Space Race', in which the USSR and USA were obsessed with beating each other into space to the point that each faked their accomplishments in an attempt to keep pace with the other's supposed achievements. Since the end of the Cold War, however, the conspiracy is most likely motivated by greed rather than political gains, and using only some of their funding to continue to fake space travel saves a lot of money to embezzle for themselves.

In light of the above, please note that we are not suggesting that space agencies are aware that the Earth is flat and actively covering the fact up. They depict the Earth as being round simply because that is what they expect it to be.


The Flat Earth Society are saying that space agencies are 'faking space travel and exploration'. Not everyone at the FEIC believes that.

Makes sense. If they believe that all of it's a lying_face, then, they'd have no reason to believe that the Moon Landing was the one exception.

Flat Earthers can't expect much from a cruise because they'll fall off if they venture out too far.

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