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Switched it off after half an hour, it was like watching paint dry, it would probably helped if they tried to make book into one movie instead spreading it to 10 hours nobody is interested to watch besides few fans. I mean I'm not fan of LOTR, but even that seemed like movie for people with ADHD compared to this.

Used to be fan of Villeneuve, but now after Dune and extremely forgettable BR2049 (buy that was at least watchable and finished it) I'm afraid what will comes next from him. 😕

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@VobIdem said:

Her being a female Replicant doesn't figure into it, it just reveals your personal views on men and women

And that's kind of a below the belt punch if you ask me.

@CelluloidFan said:

@VobIdem said:

Her being a female Replicant doesn't figure into it, it just reveals your personal views on men and women

And that's kind of a below the belt punch if you ask me.

Hey your the one who insulted me for an observation first though.

@Kurtzmansucks said:

Hey your the one who insulted me for an observation first though.

Kurtzmansucks, you made me see an important point: Even if I'd endured a thousand slights from people on this site, it doesn't justify an insulting reply to you. I did not mean the post as an insult. You have my sincerest apology.

@CelluloidFan said:

@Kurtzmansucks said:

Hey your the one who insulted me for an observation first though.

Kurtzmansucks, you made me see an important point: Even if I'd endured a thousand slights from people on this site, it doesn't justify an insulting reply to you. I did not mean the post as an insult. You have my sincerest apology.

And you have mine as well if I offended you or anyone else for that matter peace to you my friend

@Markoff said:

Switched it off after half an hour, it was like watching paint dry, it would probably helped if they tried to make book into one movie instead spreading it to 10 hours nobody is interested to watch besides few fans. I mean I'm not fan of LOTR, but even that seemed like movie for people with ADHD compared to this.

Used to be fan of Villeneuve, but now after Dune and extremely forgettable BR2049 (buy that was at least watchable and finished it) I'm afraid what will comes next from him. 😕

I wonder what kind of movies do you watch? Entertain us.

@lostincinema said:

@Markoff said:

Switched it off after half an hour, it was like watching paint dry, it would probably helped if they tried to make book into one movie instead spreading it to 10 hours nobody is interested to watch besides few fans. I mean I'm not fan of LOTR, but even that seemed like movie for people with ADHD compared to this.

Used to be fan of Villeneuve, but now after Dune and extremely forgettable BR2049 (buy that was at least watchable and finished it) I'm afraid what will comes next from him. 😕

I wonder what kind of movies do you watch? Entertain us.

https://www.themoviedb.org/u/Markoff/ratings

I wonder what you will say, since it will ruin your idea of only some Transformer fans disliking this piece of crap. I have no problem with long slow movies like Dwelling in the Fuchun Mountains or An Elephant Sitting Still, which are of good quality than some pretentious blockbuster crap.

@Markoff said:

Switched it off after half an hour, it was like watching paint dry, it would probably helped if they tried to make book into one movie instead spreading it to 10 hours nobody is interested to watch besides few fans. I mean I'm not fan of LOTR, but even that seemed like movie for people with ADHD compared to this.

Used to be fan of Villeneuve, but now after Dune and extremely forgettable BR2049 (buy that was at least watchable and finished it) I'm afraid what will comes next from him. 😕

Nowadays, I end up watching most movies at 4x normal speed (about the maximum speed at which I can both read the subtitles and still process the action). For some parts of this movie, I was up to 8x.

I saw it last weekend on an IMAX screen.

It was not a bad attempt. It stuck to the story while necessarily streamlining it. The visuals were impressive and definitely justified my time and expense at seeing it on a big screen. The thopters, spice mining machines, and worms were almost exactly as I envisioned when reading the book.

Timothée Chalamet did an excellent job at portraying the growth of Paul from an unseasoned near child to a hardened determined near man. I look forward to his further growth. The rest of the cast put in adequate if generally restrained performances.

The complaints about it being slow moving were justified. A little too much of the story involved expository dialog or voice-over.

An example would be the spice and its importance in interstellar travel. I would have liked to see a space pilot ingest some spice and then have us, the viewers, see what he sees as he watches space fold onto itself and finds the critical points where he can enter at a certain point and reach his desired destination. They could have done this when the Atreides family moved to Arrakis. This would be a challenging filmmaking task, but if done well, completely worth it.

I would have liked to see the Harkonnens interact more. All we saw were the baron scheme while his followers looked on. In the book, he and his mentat planned together and it wasn't always smooth. It was a troubled relationship that would have been interesting to watch.

I saw it last weekend on an IMAX screen.

It was not a bad attempt. It stuck to the story while necessarily streamlining it. The visuals were impressive and definitely justified my time and expense at seeing it on a big screen. The thopters, spice mining machines, and worms were almost exactly as I envisioned when reading the book.

Timothée Chalamet did an excellent job at portraying the growth of Paul from an unseasoned near child to a hardened determined near man. I look forward to his further growth. The rest of the cast put in adequate if generally restrained performances.

The complaints about it being slow moving were justified. A little too much of the story involved expository dialog or voice-over.

An example would be the spice and its importance in interstellar travel. I would have liked to see a space pilot ingest some spice and then have us, the viewers, see what he sees as he watches space fold onto itself and finds the critical points where he can enter at a certain point and reach his desired destination. They could have done this when the Atreides family moved to Arrakis. This would be a challenging filmmaking task, but if done well, completely worth it.

I would have liked to see the Harkonnens interact more. All we saw were the baron scheme while his followers looked on. In the book, he and his mentat planned together and it wasn't always smooth. It was a troubled relationship that would have been interesting to watch.

Another critique I have is that the battle scenes were too sterile and it wasn't easy to tell who was who.

Overall, though, I had a positive impression of the movie. I just felt that it had a lot of room for improvement.

I cannot understand the enthusiasm for this film. I liked the 1980s Dune in it’s madness and glorious sets- but the cast in this one left me cold. I found them very wooden-with the exception of the Fremen. Those scenes were the ones which held my interest. I read Dune many years ago- but gave up as I didn’t understand it. It’s impenetrable (to me) and perhaps making a film true to the book is not the best idea. I did not find the sets and effects inspiring at all. Of course, everyone has different expectations and taste- but Dune was a massive disappointment to me.

@grumbles said:

I cannot understand the enthusiasm for this film. I liked the 1980s Dune in it’s madness and glorious sets- but the cast in this one left me cold. I found them very wooden-with the exception of the Fremen. Those scenes were the ones which held my interest. I read Dune many years ago- but gave up as I didn’t understand it. It’s impenetrable (to me) and perhaps making a film true to the book is not the best idea. I did not find the sets and effects inspiring at all. Of course, everyone has different expectations and taste- but Dune was a massive disappointment to me.

Clearly if you didn't understand Dune you were wasting your money going to see this lol

@Markoff said:

Switched it off after half an hour, it was like watching paint dry, it would probably helped if they tried to make book into one movie instead spreading it to 10 hours nobody is interested to watch besides few fans. I mean I'm not fan of LOTR, but even that seemed like movie for people with ADHD compared to this.

Used to be fan of Villeneuve, but now after Dune and extremely forgettable BR2049 (buy that was at least watchable and finished it) I'm afraid what will comes next from him. 😕

Didn't read the entire thread so apologies if I repeat anything already said.

The thing about a certain type of book, particularly those that imagine another reality, is that readers take joy in inhabiting those spaces while reading. Some books are especially compelling, such as the Lord of the Rings stuff and Harry Potter. But it also applies to non serial stories. Like many of the boomer generation I had countless happy hours reading Mark Twain, RL Stevenson, Jules Verne and so on under the blankets after the lights went out. Often read by the light of a hand held torch (flashlight). In this sense the slow unwinding of plot is not a problem but an asset.

But when movie makers try to adapt these sorts of stories for the screen they have to do a very difficult balancing act of fitting a story into a reasonable time frame but also satisfying fans of the original book with regard to the feel and sense of it all.

I agree with the OP, I think the movie fell on the wrong side of fan servicing. Villeneuve it needs to be said is a fan. For those of us just wanting an interesting and entertaining story, there's just so much in this movie that looks like filler. Atmospherics if you prefer. There's not that much of a story to be honest. If I were so motivated I could probably summarise it fairly neatly in less than 100 words. Another objection is the unrelenting limited design and colour palette. It's almost a black and white film but without the contrasts of scale and light and shade and pace that cinematographers of the golden era became so accomplished with. This movie is unrelentingly drab. My eyes ached to see contrast and colour afterwards. And even tho I know there are more movies to come which continue the saga, I really believe that movies need to be self contained if needed. Most of the Star Wars movies managed that so it's certainly possible.

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