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Just saw it again and felt a need to say it is a damn fine movie.

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Very good film. I know it's not really connected or anything, but this and '3,000 Miles to Graceland' sit well together for me, both light-hearted crime thrillers - I'd recommend if you haven't seen it...

@bluersun said:

Very good film. I know it's not really connected or anything, but this and '3,000 Miles to Graceland' sit well together for me, both light-hearted crime thrillers - I'd recommend if you haven't seen it...

A long time ago. I will give it another go :)

Dennis Hopper's little speech as Clarence's dad is funny as hell -- but it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I hear it, because it's so horribly racist. And that's one of the most loved parts of this film, too.

@Satch_the_man said:

Dennis Hopper's little speech as Clarence's dad is funny as hell -- but it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I hear it, because it's so horribly racist. And that's one of the most loved parts of this film, too.

Some of the most racist films are considered great classics. 48 hours is a good example. I've seen it called racist online many times, but it doesn't seem particularly racist to me (then again, I've only seen it in TV terms).

Sure, like D.W. Griffith's The Birth of a Nation. In spite of the content of the film, Griffith is considered a seminal filmmaker today, in terms of technique.

Walter Hill's 48 Hrs. makes me laugh. Do you mean that one?

@Satch_the_man said:

Dennis Hopper's little speech as Clarence's dad is funny as hell -- but it always leaves a bad taste in my mouth when I hear it, because it's so horribly racist. And that's one of the most loved parts of this film, too.

@SoapboxQuantez08 said:

Some of the most racist films are considered great classics. 48 hours is a good example. I've seen it called racist online many times, but it doesn't seem particularly racist to me (then again, I've only seen it in TV terms).

I don't think True Romance is racist

A character in a film may say something racist but it doesn't mean the film itself is racist. In order to reflect real life some characters need to be racist. In a film like Birth of a Nation the Klu Klux Klan are depicted as heroes. The film's views are very clear. That's very different from a film like True Romance.

And I suspect Clarence's dad's speech was said that way with a very specific motivation. He wanted Christopher Walken to kill him quickly. So he tailored it to make him lose his shit. He may not have spoken that way normally.

Justin, if you reread my post, you'll notice that I said the speech was "horribly racist." The film may be another story.

Say, how did you quote two of us in one post???

@Satch_the_man said:

Justin, if you reread my post, you'll notice that I said the speech was "horribly racist." The film may be another story.

Ok, I thought you might have meant that. I was just differentiating between films like True Romance/48 Hours and Birth of a Nation. That's why I quoted both of you. Because I was responding to the general conversation rather than just one of your comments.

I would have said 48 hours (and many other comedies of this nature) is mocking racism or satirizing it. The joke comes because it exposes the idea of racism -not liking someone because of such a superficial characteristic- to be completely ridiculous.

Say, how did you quote two of us in one post???

I cheated. Opened the same page in another window, clicked quote and cut and paste.

@Satch_the_man said:

Sure, like D.W. Griffith's The Birth of a Nation. In spite of the content of the film, Griffith is considered a seminal filmmaker today, in terms of technique.

Walter Hill's 48 Hrs. makes me laugh. Do you mean that one?

Yes. I meant to say "presumed-racist", since I've never considered it to be racist, in any regard.

@Invidia said:

My favorite SCENE is when PATRICIA's character DEFEATS her foe by STICKING the CORK SCREW into his TOE (who also turns out to be the TONY SOPRANO character from HBO).

The scene between CHRISTOPHER and DENNIS was also nice as well though.

GREAT STORY.

WONDERFUL FILM.

The character who Alabama defeats with the corkscrew/wash basin/shotgun is called Virgil wink

@JustinJackFlash said:

I cheated. Opened the same page in another window, clicked quote and cut and paste.

OK, thanx. I'll have to try that sometime!

I was somehow completely unaware of this film. Totally bonkers with loads of things I'd normally dislike,

  • self indulgent Tarantino dialogue
  • scenery chewing performances
  • unbelievable love interest
  • predictable finale

But despite all that I found it hugely entertaining.

7/10

Zimmer's soundtrack notes and favourite Tarantino's couple Clarence and Alabama to die for. heart_eyes

@Invidia said:

GREAT STORY. WONDERFUL FILM.

true romance is a WONDERFUL FILM not because of a GREAT STORY. it has no story. it is a wonderful film because of great casting great acting the film score tarantino production style and the shoot out at the hotel which was executed brilliantly, fur blanket

SPOILERS TO TARANTINO FILMS BELOW.

One thing about the film that appalls me is the hit man's brutal, extensive attack on Alabama. Tarantino has this penchant for letting the bad guy or bad guys have their way with a woman - in Kill Bill: Vol. 1, Inglourious Basterds, and in this, which he co-wrote. This is why I was so surprised by Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood, wherein a certain someone survived to the end unscathed.

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