@Knixon: I've heard about the bulkhead being overwhelmed too.

Anyone else surprised by how quickly AND TOTALLY any news stories, commentaries, etc. Re: the Titan Sub. dropped of the media/public radar. What's up with that?

Last we heard (seems like ages and ages ago) they were on their way to identify "presumed" human remands. With todays technology, isn't that something that could be done "doing a commercial break"?

Never mind official reports--when it comes to such a huge story--when was there ever a time there weren't even leaks to help keep inquiring minds' juices flowing?

I mean...even the conspiracy theorists have moved on?

What? Rip Van Winkle is heading the investigative team, and they have to catch him between naps!?

Isn't it now just about waiting on the lawsuits?

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

Anyone else surprised by how quickly AND TOTALLY any news stories, commentaries, etc. Re: the Titan Sub. dropped of the media/public radar. What's up with that?

Last we heard (seems like ages and ages ago) they were on their way to identify "presumed" human remands. With todays technology, isn't that something that could be done "doing a commercial break"?

Never mind official reports--when it comes to such a huge story--when was there ever a time there weren't even leaks to help keep inquiring minds' juices flowing?

I mean...even the conspiracy theorists have moved on?

What? Rip Van Winkle is heading the investigative team, and they have to catch him between naps!?

GUESS, I SPOKE TOO SOON...

Rumor has it...

A movie based on this unfortunate incident is in the works.

I'm not that there is to be a movie...just that it's been announced so soon!

@wonder2wonder: You know, there are people who don't believe in the "one iceberg " theory. 🤔

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

Anyone else surprised by how quickly AND TOTALLY any news stories, commentaries, etc. Re: the Titan Sub. dropped of the media/public radar. What's up with that?

Last we heard (seems like ages and ages ago) they were on their way to identify "presumed" human remands. With todays technology, isn't that something that could be done "doing a commercial break"?

Never mind official reports--when it comes to such a huge story--when was there ever a time there weren't even leaks to help keep inquiring minds' juices flowing?

I mean...even the conspiracy theorists have moved on?

What? Rip Van Winkle is heading the investigative team, and they have to catch him between naps!?

GUESS, I SPOKE TOO SOON...

Rumor has it...

A movie based on this unfortunate incident is in the works.

I'm not that there is to be a movie...just that it's been announced so soon!

If it is true, then I won't be surprised.

@SecretaryIMF said:

@wonder2wonder: You know, there are people who don't believe in the "one iceberg" theory.

Some things just catch-you-right. Couldn't help .

@wonder2wonder FormerlyKnownAs: I just couldn't resist, and I refuse to make jokes about what happened to The Titan and the people inside of her.

@wonder2wonder: Someone is already thinking about making a movie about what happened to The Titan and her crew? Words fail me (and not in a good way).

@wonder2wonder: There was an article in last month's Vanity Fair Magazine about Stockton Rush and his behavior towards how to build that underwater minivan.

@wonder2wonder :Incredibly redundant question, but at least you won't make me feel a like a Kazon for asking it. What are the chances that the crew and passengers of the Titian feeling no pain when the ship's implosion happened?

@wonder2wonder :redundant question: but at least you won't make me feel like a complete idiot for asking it. When the Titian imploded, did the crew and passengers feel any pain?

@SecretaryIMF said:

@wonder2wonder: There was an article in last month's Vanity Fair Magazine about Stockton Rush and his behavior towards how to build that underwater minivan.

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@SecretaryIMF said:

@wonder2wonder :redundant question: but at least you won't make me feel like a complete idiot for asking it. When the Titian imploded, did the crew and passengers feel any pain?

Probably not. It is reported that the implosion of the vessel took milliseconds. In that short amount of time, the brain cannot process pain.

... Simulation Reveals Exactly How Titan Submersible Imploded. For the victims, no time to panic and a painless death.

... Excerpt from Physicist explains how Titan’s ‘catastrophic implosion’ happened–and what it meant for those on board:

Officials overseeing the search for the submarine said the discovery of debris from the water craft is consistent with a ‘catastrophic implosion.’ What would such an event have meant for the five occupants?

Implosions like explosions are very violent. As the hull breaks apart under the huge external pressure, a large amount of energy is released, and the five occupants would have died instantly. The occupants would not have experienced pain or realized what hit them.

... From Assuming the Titan sub imploded, how quickly would the occupants die? Would they have any awareness of their impending death?:

Stefan Carl-McGrath
Studied Transactional AnalysisJul 4

Since posting your question, we now know the vessel has indeed imploded.

Given the pressure at such depth, the implosion would have been a near instant event taking about 1 millisecond (0.001 s).

For reference, the human brain needs 25 milliseconds to respond instinctively to an external stimuli (e.g. a loud bang). A response that requires conscious thought and not just reflex is said to take at least 150 milliseconds.

The sub was an air bubble with a strong shell. In case the shell looses structural integrity, it won't just puncture and leak. Instead, the surrounding water will crush the shell and move inwards. This happens at a speed of about 670 m/s (approx. 1,500 mph, 2,400 kph).

The water will compress the air-bubble inside the sub to a fraction of its size. The pressure will cause the air to ignite and cause and explosion. The explosion will be limited in size due to the surrounding pressure, but it will still be violent and hot. It is said that most organic matter at the centre of the implosion (i.e. human bodies) will be almost completely burned to ashes. However, not all five bodies might have been affected in the same way.

This means the occupants would have died long before their brains would have been able to register the situation, i.e. within 1 millisecond.

It was reported that the recovered debris contained some (presumed) human remains. Whether these are body parts or merely tissue is to be confirmed.

It is also to be confirmed if the occupants had any potential warning signs that there might be a potentially catastrophic failure of the structure.

Some sources say the sub dropped weights suggesting an attempted emergency ascend.

Maybe some sensors indicated a potential problem, maybe there were other warning signs. At this point, we can only speculate if the occupants had any idea of the impeding catastrophe.

It is also yet to be confirmed which part of the structure caused the collapse.

The bulkheads of the sub were made of titanium (metal), while the cylinder part was made of carbon fibre. We know the bulkheads have been recovered seemingly intact, but the window from the door was missing. This suggests the implosion was either caused by the carbon fibre tube rupturing, or by the window failing.

Either way, both would almost certainly have resulted in the same rapid collapse of the entire vessel.

Do they know for sure what depth it occurred at? Last I heard they don't, so it might have been after they'd been ascending for a while (if the dropped-weights report is accurate, or something else) so the millisecond theory might not hold up.