Yes, please stop doing this… why you split episode for no reason…

Disney+ has it listed as one episode.

Here's a screen shot: https://res.cloudinary.com/dkyd429md/image/upload/v1712167186/Forums/TMDB/Screenshot_2024-04-03_125751_eewkxh.png

I'm also wondering why the moderator split theses. It's seems wrong and I'm hoping they can respond as to why they made this change.

The episode is made up of two distinct stories: Motendo and Lifedeath Part 1. They were split according to TMDB's segment rules:

For kids cartoon with two or three distinct stories (segments) per half-hour, each episode should be split so that each segment is an episode. For example, "Going the Extra Milo / Sunny Side Up" should be two episodes. The main reason for splitting the segments is that segments are often released individually and/or paired with a different segment in subsequent releases.

It’s no reason.

Again and again you will have lots of dissatisfaction because you are wrong. Once again you are the only ones to make this stupid choice.

@raze464 said:

The episode is made up of two distinct stories: Motendo and Lifedeath Part 1. They were split according to TMDB's segment rules:

For kids cartoon with two or three distinct stories (segments) per half-hour, each episode should be split so that each segment is an episode. For example, "Going the Extra Milo / Sunny Side Up" should be two episodes. The main reason for splitting the segments is that segments are often released individually and/or paired with a different segment in subsequent releases.

Does the API indicate it's split? This is difficult to untangle and seems to be inconsistently applied. For example, the Simpson's Treehouse of Horror episodes are not split even when they are distinct. The ToH mini-episodes are distinct stories, have even different writers (they have distinct pre/post credits sequences even), but are not split in the TMDB.

@raze464 said:

The episode is made up of two distinct stories: Motendo and Lifedeath Part 1. They were split according to TMDB's segment rules:

For kids cartoon with two or three distinct stories (segments) per half-hour, each episode should be split so that each segment is an episode. For example, "Going the Extra Milo / Sunny Side Up" should be two episodes. The main reason for splitting the segments is that segments are often released individually and/or paired with a different segment in subsequent releases.

Thanks, I can see the logic now as to why the change was made. One additional point of clarification, that rules related to kids cartoons (TV-Y7) etc. This show has a 14+ disney rating in europe and it could be argued this is not a "kids" cartoon and outside of this specific rule.

@ineffable_tmdb said:

@raze464 said:

The episode is made up of two distinct stories: Motendo and Lifedeath Part 1. They were split according to TMDB's segment rules:

For kids cartoon with two or three distinct stories (segments) per half-hour, each episode should be split so that each segment is an episode. For example, "Going the Extra Milo / Sunny Side Up" should be two episodes. The main reason for splitting the segments is that segments are often released individually and/or paired with a different segment in subsequent releases.

Does the API indicate it's split? This is difficult to untangle and seems to be inconsistently applied. For example, the Simpson's Treehouse of Horror episodes are not split even when they are distinct. The ToH mini-episodes are distinct stories, have even different writers (they have distinct pre/post credits sequences even), but are not split in the TMDB.

Also one last note, this does cause concordance issues with external databases, TMDB doesn't allow an episode to share an IMDB or TVDB with another episode (in this case, the other part). This makes automated data validation a bit more difficult.

@raze464 said:

The episode is made up of two distinct stories: Motendo and Lifedeath Part 1. They were split according to TMDB's segment rules:

For kids cartoon with two or three distinct stories (segments) per half-hour, each episode should be split so that each segment is an episode. For example, "Going the Extra Milo / Sunny Side Up" should be two episodes. The main reason for splitting the segments is that segments are often released individually and/or paired with a different segment in subsequent releases.

You guys are so inconsistent when logic is called for. What happened to the "we follow the broadcaster" rule? Everywhere, and I mean EVERWHERE else that lists episodes of TV has this listed as one episode.

As ineffable_tmdb states, this rule doesn't seem to apply to The Simpsons Treehouse of Horrors episodes, and they are more definitively segmented. And as dokuro states, this is hardly a "kids" cartoon.

There has to be some sort of logic applied. You literally have the whole world saying "this is one episode", and you've decided "meh, we want it to be two". Please just follow the "Episodes should be added exactly as they first aired on the original network (title, date, order, season)." rule.

@raze464 said:

The episode is made up of two distinct stories: Motendo and Lifedeath Part 1. They were split according to TMDB's segment rules:

For kids cartoon with two or three distinct stories (segments) per half-hour, each episode should be split so that each segment is an episode. For example, "Going the Extra Milo / Sunny Side Up" should be two episodes. The main reason for splitting the segments is that segments are often released individually and/or paired with a different segment in subsequent releases.

Absolutely ridiculous rule, especially when it's listed as a single episode on Disney+. What are you lot smoking?

Also, this doesn't follow your rules as it wasn't released individually.

@ineffable_tmdb said:

For example, the Simpson's Treehouse of Horror episodes are not split even when they are distinct. The ToH mini-episodes are distinct stories, have even different writers (they have distinct pre/post credits sequences even), but are not split in the TMDB.

The Simpson's Treehouse of Horror episodes are not split because they have one single title

This rule apply when the episode title is compound with the segments titles like it's the case here.

@MrOrange88 said:

Absolutely ridiculous rule, especially when it's listed as a single episode on Disney+.

Every segmented episodes were listed as a single episode by their broadcaster at the time of the original release.

Also, this doesn't follow your rules as it wasn't released individually.

That follow our rules as this rule is in place to take in account the possibility of a separate release in the future.

@superboy97 said:

@ineffable_tmdb said:

For example, the Simpson's Treehouse of Horror episodes are not split even when they are distinct. The ToH mini-episodes are distinct stories, have even different writers (they have distinct pre/post credits sequences even), but are not split in the TMDB.

The Simpson's Treehouse of Horror episodes are not split because they have one single title

This rule apply when the episode title is compound with the segments titles like it's the case here.

But it's listed as a single episode on D+. You can't choose what segment to watch, as it's a single episode.

This site, the mods, and the rules are a joke.

What gets me about the segment rules is - "As with multi-segment cartoons, episodes formed of two or more distinct segments should be split so that each segment is an episode. While not ideal, the main reason for the split is that segments are often paired differently in subsequent releases." which really is moot when you consider the very first rule on the page states "Episodes should be added exactly as they first aired on the original network (title, date, order, season)." Subsequent releases shouldn't matter if you go with the original release. Or am I missing something?

@LloydWLDavis said:

What gets me about the segment rules is - "As with multi-segment cartoons, episodes formed of two or more distinct segments should be split so that each segment is an episode. While not ideal, the main reason for the split is that segments are often paired differently in subsequent releases." which really is moot when you consider the very first rule on the page states "Episodes should be added exactly as they first aired on the original network (title, date, order, season)." Subsequent releases shouldn't matter if you go with the original release. Or am I missing something?

I've also never understood this part of the bible. Surely the core rule (some might say, the one rule to rule them all) is Episodes should be added exactly as they first aired on the original network (title, date, order, season). Once proof (evidence of this) is provided it should trump everything else. Also, subsequent releases, what does that even mean when you consider the first aired rule ?

Anyhow, as always I'll just accept the decision made by the mods and move on. Their decision is final, enough said :-(