I agree.

As explained on the official site here and here, the 2 episodes you linked above aren't the special episodes.

• Episodes 88 to 90 are a recut version in 3 parts of the first special that will be released on some digital networks starting from November 5.
• Episodes 91 to 94 are a recut version in 4 parts of the second special that will be released on some digital networks starting from November 19.

As per our rules, we only list the original TV version.

wow these rules are changing every time as TMDb mods like?? the rules was to follow the Official anime website listing and now the original TV version!! can you provide us of an official source to the original TV version?

you guys said it was released as specials "and agree with that" and now these specials officially listed as 7 episodes in the same source you claimed is the Official source and you follow.

so from what I can see the Specials will remain as specials in TMDb but you have to list these 7 episodes as normal now in season 4 because the official site listed it as such, and to be honest with you these anime OFFICIAL sites cant be trusted and unreliable but you guys make it a thing.

one last thing IMO streaming services are now official TV, and normal broadcasting or cable or satellite TV will become a thing of the past in near future but that besides the point.

@KiNGxNiNjA said:

wow these rules are changing every time as TMDb mods like?? the rules was to follow the Official anime website listing and now the original TV version!!

The rules didn't changes. We follow the official anime website at the time of the original release.

can you provide us of an official source to the original TV version?

The second one is advertised here on the top of the page. The first one was advertised on top of the same page in March as visible on this archive.

but you have to list these 7 episodes as normal now in season 4 because the official site listed it as such,

No, we only list the original release.

at this point I want to read these rules if you have link or document please provide it to me and everyone else.

the episodes you called as "original release" you already listed it as special I have no problems with that and it is no longer listed in Official website as part of the episodes list here.

Now we have a new 3 episodes released yesterday 05/11/2023 with 4 more episodes to follow in 19/11/2023.

Why cant these episodes which Officially listed as part of "The Final Season" or "Season 4" and correctly numbered in the Officially website be the solution?

it is really the perfect solution for everyone here.

@KiNGxNiNjA said:

at this point I want to read these rules if you have link or document please provide it to me and everyone else.

The link to the rules is available at the bottom of all pages of the main site.

Why cant these episodes which Officially listed as part of "The Final Season" or "Season 4" and correctly numbered in the Officially website be the solution?

Because we only list the original releases.

these are rules for anime right? https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/tv/59f743289251416e71000037#5b71c6b4c3a3684161000001

@KiNGxNiNjA said:

these are rules for anime right? https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/tv/59f743289251416e71000037#5b71c6b4c3a3684161000001

All the rules apply to the anime as reminded in the first sentence. I quote : "The main guidelines for animes are the same as with any other type of series."

The ones you link are only a few supplemental rules that apply specifically to anime and supplement the other rules.

According to TMDb guidelines for Anime (literally on the first two lines!)

Original Order : The main guidelines for animes are the same as with any other type of series. Our goal is to replicate how the TV series were originally released on their original network. The episodes of anime series should be in the exact order in which they were originally released in Japan.

so the order of the episodes should be in the exact order of original network in Japan. Quick googling the NHK General TV is the original network for the show in Japan source

Which mean the Official source according to TMDb rules should be https://www.nhk.jp/p/ts/W52P85GGNY/list/?pastOffset=50

the source has a list of 41 Episodes with a lot of **recap **episodes, so let's see What TMDb say about recap episodes in guidelines:

Specials: Special TV episodes, single-episode OVAs, recap episodes (unless they are numerated as regular episodes), bonus episodes bundled with the DVD release, and any episodes that didn't air during the initial Japanese TV broadcast belong in the Specials.

so recap episodes should be listed as Specials. lets go back and take every single episodes from the source in exact order

• 特別総集編― (1)「人類と巨人の戦い」Recap = Special
• 特別総集編― (2)「知性を持つ巨人の出現」Recap = Special
• 特別総集編― (3)「調査兵団の反乱と真の王」Recap = Special
• 特別総集編― (4)「巨人の正体と壁の秘密」Recap = Special
• The Final Season 「海の向こう側 Episode 1
• The Final Season 「闇夜の列車」Episode 2
• The Final Season 「希望の扉」Episode 3
• The Final Season 「手から手へ」Episode 4
• The Final Season 「宣戦布告」Episode 5
• The Final Season 「戦鎚(つい)の巨人」Episode 6
• The Final Season 「強襲」Episode 7
• The Final Season 「凶弾」Episode 8
• The Final Season 「義勇兵」Episode 9
• The Final Season 「正論」Episode 10
• The Final Season 「偽り者」Episode 11
• The Final Season 「導く者」Episode 12
• The Final Season 「森の子ら」Episode 13
• The Final Season 「暴悪」「唯一の救い」 Episode 14+15 same Air date Source
• The Final Season 「天地」Episode 16
• 「Wall Sina, Goodbye―前編―」Recap = Special
• 「Wall Sina, Goodbye―後編―」Recap = Special
• 「悔いなき選択―前編―」Recap = Special
• 「悔いなき選択―後編―」Recap = Special
• 「Lost in the cruel world」Recap = Special
• ―特別総集編― (5)「マーレの戦士と島の悪魔」Recap = Special
• ―特別総集編― (6)「未来の選択」Recap = Special
• The Final Season 「断罪」Episode 17
• The Final Season 「騙(だま)し討ち」Episode 18
• The Final Season 「兄と弟」Episode 19
• The Final Season 「未来の記憶」Episode 20
• The Final Season 「二千年前の君から」Episode 21
• The Final Season 「氷解」Episode 22
• The Final Season 「夕焼け」Episode 23
• The Final Season 「矜(きょう)持」Episode 24
• The Final Season 「終末の夜」Episode 25
• The Final Season 「裏切り者」Episode 26
• The Final Season 「懐古」Episode 27
• The Final Season 「人類の夜明け」Episode 28
• ―特別総集編― (7)「終末の足音」Recap = Special
• The Final Season 完結編(前編) Episode 29
• The Final Season 完結編(後編) Episode 30

here also NHK EPG archive

And what is the problem ?

The fact that recap episodes aren't listed because no users contributed them doesn't change the fact that the episodes listed are in the correct order.

IDK maybe you should compare the NHK Order with TMDb Order and till me if they are following the "exact order" as stated in TMDb Guidelines. https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/1429/seasons

@KiNGxNiNjA You have a mistake in your thinking. Both specials are released unnumbered. And you argue that they suddenly have a number, even though the split episode of that have a number? What @superboy97 says is correct.

@KiNGxNiNjA said:

IDK maybe you should compare the NHK Order with TMDb Order and till me if they are following the "exact order" as stated in TMDb Guidelines. https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/1429/seasons

I don't see any differencies between the NHK listing and our listing.